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Old 03-10-2010, 05:50 PM   #11
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Heres something else to go along with this line of thought.

The New Living Translation reads the following for Romans 13; "Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there.."

New International Version reads; "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established."

King James reads; " Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained by God."

When discussing this scripture with anyone who is under a pastor at ANY church, they believe this scripture to mean that we are to obey the government of man. Even after I have taken them to Hebrews 13:7 as a cross reference for Romans 13

Hebrews 13;7 "Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation." KJV

Clearly we see that Jesus was referring to our spiritual leaders in Romans 13 as well as Hebrews 13;7! People in the church still want to argue that God has put our worldly leaders into office and we are to pray for them! Here is a list of scriptures that say the contrary!

Psalms 2; "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his annointed,.."(Please read the whole of this scripture for it is prophetic warning for the final battle between Satan and Jesus!

Hosea 8:4; "They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off!"

The mistranslation of Romans 13 by the state sanctioned churches is going to be the downfall for many of the christians who profess to love the Lord! Google 26,000 pastors and see what they have done! These pastors have agreed to enforce public policy as well as teaching their flocks to do so as well! All for the sake of doing what God has told them to do according to Romans 13!
Let me add this as well! If our current administration(Obama)supports the killing of unborn babies,equal rights for homosexuals,funding the war in Iraq for the sole purpose of profits, then the churches who are tax exempt and teach that we are to agree with this government, then we too are just as guilty of murder, homosexuality and worshipping gold and silver as they are! We cannot in good conscience toward our Lord Jesus continue to support these policies as we do in the church today!
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:04 PM   #12
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http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm
http://www.guymalone.com/501c3church.htm

Please read these two articles for future reference when witnessing to others against the dangers involved with state sanctioned churches! This is VERY IMPORTANT!
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:56 AM   #13
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There are some differences between the original 1611 authorized version of the King James Version and that of the modern KJV's. Something that may want to be looked into, I do still trust all kjvs for now
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:52 PM   #14
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There are some differences between the original 1611 authorized version of the King James Version and that of the modern KJV's. Something that may want to be looked into, I do still trust all kjvs for now
It is advisable to use a Strong's concordance as well as a Greek to English concordance. Having these two tools available while studying any bible will help the reader to dissect the word more accurately.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:00 PM   #15
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Hi man from modesto!

I have here a video I got years ago concerning perversion of bibletranslations.

(bear over with me here, I will get to the point concerning the chip shortly)

I have seen it many times. A whoman got sick for years and prayed about it and God focused her sight on bible translations. She showed how many translations obviously take away That Jesus is Allmighty, His glory etc.

Some of what is written on the back of the video is following:
(remember I got this video about8 years ago)

1. The pornographer Rubert murdock, owner of bart simson television program, now owns the NIVīs printing rights.

2.Roman Catholic CardinalCarlo Maria Martini, the man og time magazinesaid is most likely to be the nekst pope (which is not him but ratzinger) , now edits the Greek tekst underlying the NIV and NASV.

3.Martin Woudstra, a supporter of the homosexual movement, was the NIVīs Old Testament Chairman!

Theese are just a few facts that we all are able search for if neeed evidence.

In the video she eksplains how the ones who wrote the new translation also are the ones who are pushing forward the chipping of all men or they owned the companys that will produce them.

I canīt watch the video again since I dumbed my tv at the rubbish dump!
Also she eksplained how this new translation would actuall invite people to take the mark of the beast.

I denmark we can still choose between ear tatoo or chip for the dog.
But what they wet say is that it is eacyer, less pain for the dog, and cheaper
too. So offcource allmost noone take the tatoo for the dog. My dog had the tatoo (which I also regret, stupid of me, I would not like my dog to be marked in any way, law or not) and the wet tryed to talk me into the chip but my answer was..Iīm not going to be chipped so neither is my dog.
To have a mark means you belong to the person who owns the mark. Just like cows!
Make sense with the chip belonging to the beast system and the beast.
It will be totally clear to the believers when that time comes (believe itīs around the corner)

Letīs hope and pray that we may stand In Jesus when that day comes.
Jesus bless you.
anja

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I copied this post from Watchman's Cry forum. This sister makes some interesting points regarding the NIV bible and those that control it's content!
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:00 PM   #16
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I understand the KJV "may" not be exact but its the best we have until other situations appear but,one thing is for sure its a darn site better than the obvious pollutions of the NIV and others.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:30 PM   #17
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Yes it is! NIV is definitly corruptted if a homosexual and pornographer had anything to do with it as this lady asserted in the previous post I posted!
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:09 PM   #18
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In my opinion the best translation is Young's literal translation.
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:18 PM   #19
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I just looked at your bible. I suggest you look at that video I posted. Grab your bible and follow along. Than you be the judge for yourself.
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:04 AM   #20
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I will have to wait till I get home to watch your video, its too long to watch at work. I will give an example as to why I choose Youngs.

KJV-Proverbs 9:18 "But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell".
KJV-Proverbs 21:16 "The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead".
KJV-Isaiah 26:14 "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish".

You ever wonder why nobody believes that the giants existed? seems like some verses in the bible have been changed to hide them. The reason for this is the great deception. If everyone knows about the giants and the fallen angels mating with women, then everyone would know who are driving the UFO's. Now lets look at the literal translation.

Youngs-Proverbs 9:18 "And he hath not known that Rephaim [are] there, In deep places of Sheol her invited ones!"

Youngs-Proberbs 21:16 "A man who is wandering from the way of understanding, In an assembly of Rephaim resteth".

Youngs-Isaiah 26:14 "Dead -- they live not, Rephaim, they rise not, Therefore Thou hast inspected and dost destroy them, Yea, thou destroyest all their memory".

also Numbers 13:33 in the KJV says "And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight".
The literal translation is "and there we saw the Nephilim, sons of Anak, of the Nephilim; and we are in our own eyes as grasshoppers; and so we were in their eyes.'
I will expand after work on the word shoel being translated Hell and grave, when its the same word being used and others.
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